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May Ectoria
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Posted - 2005.10.20 08:30:00 -
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If you're going Gallente then the Enyo is a good bet - you can use blasters which would be very close range, however - remember you have one mid slot so you have a choice to either web or scramble. If you don't web, ceptors can pin you down and kill you with ease and if you don't scramble, your target will warp. That is a moot point if you're not going solo however.
Ishkur has 3 mid slots making it more viable for a blaster boat and a nice dronebay to boot. you could use 3 ion II and 1 small NOS. Have a play around with setups and see what you enjoy. :)))
Keep us posted!
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May Ectoria
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Posted - 2005.10.20 08:33:00 -
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Edited by: May Ectoria on 20/10/2005 08:32:45
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Don't just go Ishkur because you have no real skill and have to rely on drones. Go something that fits you...
Most people's Ishkur setups are close range and saying that you have no 'real skill' to fly one is ridiculous to be honest.
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May Ectoria
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Posted - 2005.10.20 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 20/10/2005 08:40:51
Originally by: May Ectoria Edited by: May Ectoria on 20/10/2005 08:32:45
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Don't just go Ishkur because you have no real skill and have to rely on drones. Go something that fits you...
Most people's Ishkur setups are close range and saying that you have no 'real skill' to fly one is ridiculous to be honest.
Drones do majority of the damage if you're not already in range of your blasters. Drones are a great advantage over any frigate. That's why people fly the ship. They don't fly it because it fits blasters. They fly it for the drone bay and everything else is just a bonus. If it was just about the blasters. Everyone wouldn't be asking for the Megathron to be boosted some more. The slots and everything else on the Mega are fine. It's the point of able to get in range with blasters. Frigates can do it much better I know, but webbing is more of a factor in frigate warfare than it is with battleships. I never leave dock without my webber on my frig.
Besides that. Drones are long range. I wish I could have both autocannons and long range on my wolf. Like having 8 high slots. 4 with autocannons, 4 with STD launchers (When missiles get upped more snicker). There is just no way I could defeat a Ishkur with my wolf. It can tank nice and dish out good damage with blasters. It's having the extra tech II drones all around me. It's not to hard to grasp.
What the hell? Drones have long range, o.k, but what's that worth when you get to such a range that you can no longer pin down your target, i.e within web range? Otherwise providing your target has a brain he/she will move out of range and warp.
You have also neglected to mention the fact that if you have to warp before scooping your drones, you are useless. What about smart bombs?
To say that flying the ship is 'easy' because if it's drone bay, highlights how much of an ill informed individual you really are.
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May Ectoria
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Posted - 2005.10.20 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 20/10/2005 09:20:01
Originally by: Lord Aradon Edited by: Lord Aradon on 20/10/2005 08:46:19 Christ if the only reason someone flys a ship is because it can fit a few drones, then i pity the day the come across a few smarties.
As a rule i dont use them, but as they could come in handy and seem to fit the role of what i want to do ill train the drone skills i need and take em for a spin.
Smartbombs are nice for that role. Yet there is only one assault frig that can fit drones. It's like taking one medium slot I have to fit a Minmatar named ECM. Sure I will be able to jam any Claw/Stiletto/Wolf 99% with it but what happens if he is Amarr?
Using my nifty new QuickFit Utility. This is what I got for 5 Hobgoblin II's fitted in the drone bay of a Ishkur. Note its only 5.
0 EM 60 Explosive 40 Kinetic 30 Thermal
Damage Mod per Drone - 2.488 DPS with Drones - 3.484 Total DPS with Drones - 17.418
Light Neutron Blaster II's Damage Mod - 7.219 DPS per Blaster - 21.007 DPS with all - 80.439
DPS of Drones/Blasters - 100.937
200mm Autocannon II's Damage Mod - 3.898 DPS per Autocannon - 16.088 DPS with all - 64.35 DPS with 2 Damage Mods - 91.05
So yeah the Wolf can get pretty close to the DPS + 5 drones of an Iskur. This is just with guns with no damage mods keep in mind. That's only 5 tech II drones. I believe they can hold more than 5 right?
WTB Ishkur with 4 turret slots.
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